Managing Partners should have 3 priorities as confidence index drops to record low

From the Sacramento Business Journal today:

Law firm confidence index drops to record low

Excerpt:

Confidence in the economy among managing partners at large law firms nationwide hit new lows in the first quarter, according to the latest research from the Citi Private Bank Law Firm Group in New York City.

I recommend three priorities to Managing Partners:

  1. Bulletproof existing clients (complacency is deadly in light of the predator-like behaviour you can expect from your competitors as their revenues diminish)
  2. Concentrate Business Development training and strategic assistance on your best rainmakers (Train the rest later - for now, you need results)
  3. Coach all partners on how to deal with fee resistance (Your partners will be divided and conquered unless you give them the tools and confidence to effectively deal with the inevitable fee resistance that accompanies a recession.)

PUNCHLINE: There is so much more to do, but I have seen these three initiatives making an immediate palpable difference. NOW is when you need these benefits most.

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I was honoured today to participate in Charon's 114th Lawcast which you can hear at the Charon QC blawg or download it from there in iTunes format:

Lawcast 114: Gerry Riskin, founder of Edge International - Law practice in these recessionary times

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Charon QC is intelligent, articulate and highly entertaining.  Don't miss any of his offerings!

Bravo Pepe & Hazard for demonstrating what "client driven" really means

Pepe & Hazard has had the courage to decide to freeze its rates for existing clients for 2009 and to go public with that information. 

Managing Partner Al Turco

Managing Partner, Al Turco, said [Pepe & Hazard] is in the process of formulating a 2009 budget to manage its own revenues and expenses.  However you can see the firm’s concern for clients in this statement:

“Our will was to reach out to our clients first. We can manage our own adjustments later”

Firm co-founder Lou Pepe

Firm co-founder and construction law international superstar Lou Pepe demonstrates his sensitivity to the plight of the firm’s many prominent and long standing clients in confirming:

“It’s an economic crisis unlike any we’ve seen before…”

If you are not familiar with Pepe & Hazard, it has national and international prominence that it’s four office locations (including Hartford and Boston) may not make obvious.   In addition to its strength and fine reputation serving businesses and financial institutions, Pepe & Hazard has an unexpectedly broad construction practice mainly representing general contractors, construction managers, and EPC (Engineering Procurement Construction) contractors in a variety of power, infrastructure, heavy industrial, and commercial projects in places from New England to New Orleans, the Middle Atlantic to the Middle East, and Argentina to Australia.

PUNCHLINE:  In these unprecedented economic times, no Managing Partner has enough information to make the right decision.  Making a decision is risky because events can make your choices look bad in hindsight.  Going public with a fee decision is an extremely courageous move because it alerts competitors as well as clients.  Pepe & Hazard’s Managing Partner Al Turco is therefore an exemplar.  He and his firm are putting the interests of their clients ahead of their own and publicly committing to their bold initiative without undo regard to competitors.  There is no seminar for Managing Partners (even my own) that teaches this lesson better than seeing Al Turco “just do it”.

When are you meeting with your Landlord

 

 

Negotiating is a question of power. The Chicago tribune reported today that:


Layoffs at Chicago law firms have sent a shudder through the commercial real estate market.

 

The article, Cutbacks at firms worry landlords, quotes Bill Rogers, managing director of commercial real estate firm Jones Lang LaSalle:

 

"I do have a sense that you may see some landlords get a little more aggressive and push rates down"

The articles continues:

That is likely to push firms into the real estate market. Sonnenschein, whose lease in Sears Tower doesn't expire until 2014, has retained Jones Lang LaSalle to test the market on a possible move. 

PUNCHLINE:  Managing Partners - you may not want to participate in the negotiation yourself for tactical reason but think about your timing for raising the prospect of more favorable terms with your landlord and perhaps some other folks on your payables list.

 

Banks force troubled law firms to rethink structures

"[Law] Firms in financial ‘intensive care’ told to merge, divest or restructure as cash dwindles from accounts"

OK, this is a UK story but so what!  What reason do we have to believe that law firms around the world will not encounter similar challenges (perhaps they already are but are keeping it between themselves and their bankers).

This is from today's TheLawyer.com:

Banks are emerging as key players in reshaping the legal market, stepping in to ­convince cash-strapped firms of the need to merge, sell off or restructure their businesses.


Around 500 firms have been referred to the so-called intensive care units (ICU) of their banks because they are facing financial difficulties. It is understood that 21 of the UK’s top 150 firms are being treated in Barclays’ ICU, which is known as ‘business banking support’, although the bank refused to confirm this number.


Read the full story here: Banks force troubled law firms to rethink structures


PUNCHLINE:  Managing Partners - maybe you had better have a candid chat with your banker before they surprise you with an ambulance and dictating the terms of your Intensive Care.

How Optimistic Law Firm Leaders Might React to Wall Street




The image above is the core of the post of internet phenom, Rajesh Setty, in his post today at Life Beyond Code: Optimists and Pessimists - The big difference is..

Couple that with the wisdom of lawyer and legal profession provocateur, Patrick Lamb, in his post today: Silver Lining in Black Economic Cloud? in which Pat says among other things:

If you don't see the opportunity to restructure relationships in ways that produce savings for your clients while at the same time strengthening your relationship with that client, you need to open your eyes.

Punchline:  My asking Managing Partners to treat the deterioration of the economy seriously is in perfect harmony with seeing the situation as a competitive opportunity.  My view of Dynamic Resilience as an alternative to a traditional strategic plan is just that - exploiting the opportunity to be stronger than competitors in challenging times.  (Remember the hiking joke when one hiker says to the other “I don’t have to run faster than the bear; I only have to run faster than you”).

I invite you again to push the button.

 

 

Lehman Liquidation? Merrill Acquisition? Greenspan: "worst economy I've ever seen"?

Managing Partners, you may have a disaster plan for fire, perhaps for terrorism - do you have one for the economic train coming off the tracks?

Listen (and watch) what Greenspan said yesterday Sept 14th (50 seconds)

Punchline:  You are getting fair warning - are you acting on it?  This is not a time for traditional strategic planning - it is time for scenario planning that will create "dynamic resilience" that may become the life support system your firm will need should the economy worsen. 

It's time, as Nike would say, to "Just Do It".  

Push the button. (click it) then let's talk about this privately.

 

 

 

Oh my Darling - 60 years!!!

Britain is facing "arguably the worst" economic downturn in 60 years which will be "more profound and long-lasting" than people had expected, Alistair Darling, the chancellor, tells the Guardian today in a story called: Economy at 60-year low, says Darling. And it will get worse

Wall Street returns from vacation season to enter what is historically the most perilous period of the year amid conflicting signals about the US economic outlook according to Breitbart in a story called: Wall Street enters month of peril with outlook clouded

In the face of these stories, I am disappointed to report that this is the most common management style I am observing among law firm leaders globally:

If this resembles you, give me a call or email me and we can discuss this off the meter.  Managing Partners and members of their immediate senior teams only please.  (You might be even more inclined to call if this does not resemble you.)

Reference my post one year ago: Doom and Gloom for the legal profession - it's coming

and Weather the Storm Article Available from Canadian Bar Association's The National

 

The One Piece Of Advice You Need to Get the Fees You Deserve

RainToday.com created a special report  from 12 experts in pricing  professional services, including, I am honoured to say, yours truly.  You can download my article:

"Think of Services in Terms of Value – Not Rates" by Gerry Riskin (author: The Successful Lawyer)

or download the entire 39 page report including all 12 articles by visiting RainToday.com here.

Here is what RainToday.com has to say about its publication:

We've read a lot of advice about fee structure, and there are a lot of people who claim to know it all. But when you boil it all down — what's really important? What do you need to know?  What is the one piece of advice you need to get the fees you deserve?
The expert authors and advice includes:

1.  Convince the Buyer that Value-Based Fees are Best by Alan Weiss, Author, “Million Dollar Consulting”

2.  Price with Confidence! Follow These 10 Steps to Stop Leaving Money on the Table
- Mark Burton, Co-Founder and Vice President of Holden Advisors and Co-Author, “Pricing With Confidence: 10 Ways to Stop Leaving Money on the Table”

3.  A Magic Bullet? No, a Process
- Bruce W. Marcus, Marketing and Strategic Planning Consultant and Editor, The Marcus Letter on Professional Services Marketing

4.    The Best Kept Secret of the Selling World
- Jeff Thull, President and CEO, Prime Resource Group and Author, “Mastering the Complex Sale, The Prime Solution”

5,  If You Don’t Discuss Value, Expect to Discuss Hours
- Ronald J. Baker, Founder, VeraSage Institute and Author, “The Firm of the Future: A Guide for Accountants, Lawyers, and Other Professional Services”

6.  Take Courage: Demand Full Price (And seven steps to get you there)
- John Doehring, Senior Vice President, ZweigWhite
 
7.  Creating Value During the Sales Process
- Tom Snyder, Former CEO, Huthwaite

8.  Build the Relationship One Day at a Time
- Ron Worth, CEO, Society for Marketing Professional Services and Author, “A/E/C Marketing Fundamentals”

9.  Think of Services in Terms of Value – Not Rates
- Gerry Riskin, Co-Founder, Edge International

10.  Discounting Doesn’t Work
- Jeanne Urich, Managing Director, Service Performance Insight
 
11.  Over-Serve Your Best Clients
- Neil Fauerbach, Partner and Director of Business Development and Marketing, Smith & Gesteland, LLP and President, Association for Accounting Marketing

12.  Maximize the Value of Work to Your Clients and Your Firm
- Andrew Sobel, Founder, Andrew Sobel Advisors and Author, “Clients for Life” and “Making Rain”

"How the 'Cravath System' Created the Bi-Modal Distribution."



Law Professor William D. Henderson (click on photo for bio)

Managing Partners and law firm H.R. Executives should contemplate the meaning of Indiana University School of Law's Prof. Bill Henderson's post: "How the 'Cravath System' Created the Bi-Modal Distribution."

Professor Henderson builds on the work of NALP (The National Association for Law Placement®, founded in 1971) who published this graph in 2007 referencing 2006 salaries their article called "A Picture Worth 1,000 Words":

 


Note how meaningless the Median is in helping any form set associate salaries.

Professor Henderson asks, among other things: "Are We Selling Results or Résumés?" which is the title of one of his papers in this area.  Here is a related excerpt:

"The Results or Résumés paper draws upon two pieces of market data to demonstrate that a large proportion of large corporate law firms have to re-evaluate their business models:  (1) stunning uniformity of associate entry level salaries amidst large, growing disparities in profits per partner; and (2) evidence that firms are becoming stratified by premium versus non-premium practice areas."

Professor Henderson also draws our attention to the unbelievable burden taken on by firms that are not the most profitable by showing a comparison between associate salaries and per partner profits as you move up the profitability curve:


Professor Henderson then explores the lateral partner mobility within the Am Law 2000 and in his words "teases out a relative hierarchy of practice areas"  According to Professor Henderson, the table below, which covers the 2000 to 2005 time period, orders legal specialty by differential profits per equity partner (PPP) between the firm a partner left and the firm he or she joined.



I strongly recommend that you read Professor Henderson's entire post but I think the best is yet to come as evidenced by the final paragraph in his post:

"Fortunately, the Results or Résumés paper lays out a solution for any law firm willing to try something new.  The psychological barriers, however, are much larger than the logistical or financial.  I will blog on this topic in a subsequent post."

Thank you also to my friend Bruce MacEwen of Adam Smith, Esq. for his excellent post on this topic: THE BI-MODAL STARTING SALARY DISTRIBUTION and the ABA post: ‘Cravath Model’ that Created Have and Have-Not Law Grads Could Implode

PUNCHLINE:  The legal profession resists change for good reasons and bad.  As always, it won't be the legal profession initiating the change - our clients will do that for us.  The fundamental question is whether your firm will be among those to first respond to these issues and from that gain well-deserved competitive advantage.  Stay tuned.

Weather the Storm Article Available from Canadian Bar Association's The National

"once-in-a-lifetime" - Valorem Law Group

As Nicole Nehama Auerbach joins Valorem, she says:
“I saw Valorem as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to really make a difference in the way litigation is handled... I was captivated by the firm’s commitment to provide real value to business clients, and, in particular, its emphasis on alternative fees. Alternative fees are more important than ever to clients as the economy fluctuates and rates continue their upward march. Traditional law firms have been slow to recognize the need to satisfy their clients’ economic concerns."
Valorem Law Group represents a head on assault on the billable hour.  Here's an excerpt from thier new web site:


The top ten list…
  1. We are all refugees of elite BigLaw firms;
  2. We are skilled courtroom lawyers, in practice and at heart;
  3. We are revolutionaries and risk-takers, entrepreneurs at heart;
  4. We bring a single-mindedness to the notion of client service;
  5. We believe you are entitled to budget certainty, to a real and realized commitment to help you deal with the cost pressures you face;
  6. We believe that the practice of law is an art, not a science;
  7. We believe in collaboration and hold the team rather than the individual sacrosanct;
  8. We love technology and efficiency -- the more red tape we hack through, the better;
  9. We take our work very seriously -- ourselves, not so much;
  10. We are real people, with supportive spouses and wonderful kids (who, at least today, appear to really like us).
They even have the audacity to say this:

We provide value or you adjust the bill.

I recommend a thorough tour of their web site.

My Opinion:  Don't bet against these people - they are proven champions as individuals and together they are going to disturb the peace of the billable hour.  I say BRAVO!!  The leader is Patrick Lamb (center in photo above) - learn even more at his famous blog: In Search of Client Service

What do Bear Stearns and Enron have in common?

The Services Safari Blog posted this yesterday:

Calling all Lawyers... The Bear Stearns Collapse

The following is an excerpt:

Shareholder litigants are going to be talking about this one tonight and tomorrow. Let's recap the fall of Bear Stearns stock price and market value the last year:

Stock price last year: $159/share - market cap: $18.76 billion
Stock price last week: $69.75/share - market cap: $8.23 billion
Stock price Friday: $30/share - market cap: $4.04 billion
Acquisition price Sunday: $2/share - market cap: $236 million

The post ends with:
Are criminal indictments in the future?
Punchline:  this trumps my wildest speculation about how erratic the economy may become.  Managing Partners:  Are the appropriate practice group and industry teams watching all economic indicators (formal and informal) and reporting to you frequently (a la #4 in my January 24 post: Recession-Proof your Law Firm).

"economically-irrational" associate salaries hit ceiling

The Wall Street Journal has a post called: Big-Law Associates Facing 2008 Salary Cap by Dan Slater.

Here is a key paragraph from that post from which my title was derived:
"We called around to firms to find out whether associate salaries, called economically-irrational in some quarters, have finally (or, at least, for now) hit a ceiling. The answer seems to be yes."
The comments under the post range from:
"I think associates should just worry about keeping their jobs instead of clamoring for increases in salary"
to
"I expect salaries in NY will bump up to 190 before the end of the year. That will cause other cities to match. The following year NY will again bump to 230, and other cities will again follow. The pattern has been established, and there is no way to stop it. It’s pure economics. Plain and simple."
PUNCHLINE:  I am empathetic with recent grads who must repay large loans and face rampant inflation.  However, I believe the only thing that matters is "the client" because collectively the clients will drive demand and the parameters under which legal services are sold.  As the world flattens, clients' choices expend and as Cisco and GE and other powerful clients have clearly demonstrated, if the profession can't summon the imagination to change the equation clients will change the equation for them.  I reference two of my previous posts:
Offshoring in India Changing Legal Services in the West
OUTSOURCING: "Lawyers are service providers. We are not gods"
Image Credit:  The image in this post was copied from the original WSJ post

Footnote:  At the moment I am on assignment with a prominent South African law firm...  you should see how wide their eyes get at the mention of the scale of associate salaries referenced in this article.

Recession-Proof your Law Firm


The worst market crisis in 60 years: "recession or worse"?  Says who? The 80th richest man in the world, George Soros, (estimated net worth of 8.5 Billion according to Forbes).  Is Mr. Soros toying with the "D" word: "Depression" when he says "recession or worse"?

I recommend that you read the entire Financial Times (FT) article dated January 22, 2008: The worst market crisis in 60 years.

This is not a new subject for me - see my August 3, 2007 post Doom and Gloom for the legal profession - it's coming with respect to which Valorem Law founder, Patrick Lamb, kindly called me "an awfully good soothsayer" in his January 19, 2008 post Will The Perfect Storm Fundamentally Alter The Foundation Of The Profession?

Citibank’s Law Group Head and friend, Dan DiPietro, seems to be singing in harmony with Mr. Soros.  Dan believes that US law firms may soon be battling unprecedented economic pressures.

As a law firm leader,  you need to ask yourself some hard questions.  My Edge International partner, Rob Millard, and I believe you need to: Recession-Proof your Law Firm and that Law firms must immediately prepare by reassessing their strategies in order to:
  • minimize the potentially firm-threatening impact and
  • capitalize on competitive opportunities
Managing Partners should consider these SEVEN KEY STRATEGIC FACTORS in order to “recession-proof” the firm:

  1. Strong Leadership ??  In ancient times, the Cherokee Nation had one chief who would rule during times of peace; another during war. The need for hard, courageous decisions, even sacrifice, is common to both recessions and wars. In both, strong leadership is critical if hard decisions are to be taken and actually executed.
  2. Ramp Up the Frequency of Financial Data Reporting   ??Things can change fast in a recession. Clients, under financial pressure themselves, terminate engagements. Revenues may contract. Debtor payment periods and write offs may deteriorate, putting pressure on liquidity. The firm’s key financial metrics must be monitored far more frequently than in boom times.
  3. Make the Hard Decisions Humanely and Fast  ??Layoffs, if required, must be quick and humane not only to preserve capital, but also to get the firm past this trauma quickly and focused on working forward again. Continued employment of underperformers must be carefully assessed. Where the market is no longer buying specific services there are two choices: retool (quickly) or separate. (Do not misinterpret this as a suggestion to rush to lay off people though. Long-term considerations suggest this is a last resort option for all personnel except those who ought to have been asked to leave years ago.)
  4. Get Practice Leaders and Client Team Leaders focused on short-term action plans  ??Actions must be executed more quickly than in “good times” and therefore designed for rapid implementation. Plans must be focused, systematic and disciplined. Those that will actually drive plans must be integrally involved in crafting them and managing their execution. Feedback and accountability measures are critical to ensure that the plans are executed, especially when they relate to the hard, courageous decisions (point 1.) Non-billable time becomes a valuable asset and must be actively managed to ensure that key tasks receive priority.
  5. Involve Your Clients  ??In recessions, client mobility increases. Client needs evolve more quickly as new threats and opportunities emerge. Firms need to go beyond simply expressing empathy and assuring continuing loyalty. They need to actively position themselves to meet emerging key client needs. This cannot be done without actively discussing business (not just legal) issues with clients. If you don’t have client teams in place for your key clients, now would be a good time to start!
  6. Manage Internal Expectations   Business as Usual Could Be Lethal??Remember the tale of the two frogs? The first is dropped into a bowl of hot water. It jumps out. The second is dropped into a bowl of cold water and slowly heated up. It doesn’t jump out and eventually dies. Similar procrastination has been the death of too many good firms. You need to explain internally what is being done to weather the recession and the likely impact on the financial positions of your people. This knowledge will motivate your people to do what is expected of them rather than default to “business as usual.”
  7. This Too Shall Pass   Keep a Balance With Your Long Term Strategy??Think strategically about whether and where to cut short-term resources. Retaining some temporarily unprofitable practice areas and individuals may be advisable if they are important to your long-term goals. On the other hand, a recession is an excellent time to re-engineer or sever areas that have become less profitable but have been tolerated to avoid conflict.
The Chinese character for “crisis” consists of two symbols. One means “danger,” the other “opportunity.” While strategy may be more challenging during recessions, if you grasp the nettle, opportunities will arise to enhance your client mix and your talent base.

Thanks again to Robert Millard for his collaboration on this. 

As always I appreciate your feedback.


New York Times suggests top law firms seem absolutely irrational



Here’s the actual quote: 
Lawyers are smart, but this herd mentality seems absolutely irrational, economically speaking — and not because the compensation is too high. The top law firms have been stuck in copycat mode for years. As soon as one of them raises salaries for associates, the others fall in line almost immediately.
Later in the article NYT asks: 
But think about this for a moment: Is there any other business in which every competitor matches salaries and bonuses almost identically?
In response to:
Evan R. Chesler, Cravath’s presiding partner, told The New York Times last month that the firm had originally wanted to “thank our lawyers for the hard work this year and the good year we’ve had.”
NYT offered:
It’s a nice thought but somewhat specious. Partners at law firms are a notoriously greedy bunch — that’s why they accept so few new partners — making it hard to believe that they are willing to part with their money so easily. I suggest there is something else at play: Law firms match bonuses to secure bragging rights.
My View:  Given the economic challenges the legal profession is about to face I believe large salary increases and bonuses are risky…  a handful of firms can play the game because they have spectacular revenues to encroach upon but if the main stream gets caught in this game we are going to see casualties.  Over my many years of working with law firms globally there is a season you want to avoid like the plague – that’s “shrinking pie” season (when the cycle leaves less for partners to share).  Everything becomes more painful – rewarding stars means starving others and laying partners off (or de-equitizing) requires more courage because the world is a lot tougher for those who are being disenfranchised.  Somehow when the pie shrinks, a very negative game of dominos ensues.  Huge associate salaries and bonuses accelerate the shrinking of the partner pie which I argue has its perils.

Read the entire article: Lawyers Compete, Except in Bonuses

OUTSOURCING: "Lawyers are service providers. We are not gods"


"The objective is to have only the most valuable people in London or New York, and the others in India, China or Columbus, Ohio,'' said Robert Profusek, co-head of the mergers and acquisitions practice at Jones Day in New York, who sends low-end work to the cheapest locations and plans to open a document center in India. ``Lawyers are service providers. We are not gods.''

This comes from a gem-packed Bloomberg article today titled: “Jones Day, Kirkland Send Work to India to Reduce Client Bills” co-authored by Cynthia Cotts and Liane Kufchock



Here are some additional outsourcing factoids from the article:
  • “Outsourcing will move about 50,000 U.S. legal jobs overseas by 2015”
  • “Companies like Dupont, Cisco and Morgan Stanley have legal departments in India”
  • “General Electric Co. sends about $3 million a year in routine legal work to its Indian affiliate”
  • “Kirkland & Ellis, the seventh-largest U.S. law firm, works with offshore attorneys at the client's request”
  • “Law firms can earn more by using labor they can mark up without disclosure,'' said Stephen Gillers, professor of legal ethics at New York University School of Law (referring to offshoring)
  • “Law firms contribute 45 percent to offshore revenue, while corporate law departments contribute 36 percent”, ValueNotes said.
PUNCHLINE:  If you are gathering intelligence on outsourcing, this article is a “must read”

Seduced by Success


Ahhhh yes… seduction! 

Many great firms that I serve have a common enemy ”complacency” which Is indeed the result of decades of success.  Managing Partners complain that they are unable to get their partners to pay attention to their future.

Read Jim Hassett’s blogpost, Have lawyers been seduced by success? In his fantastic blog: Legal Business Development.

Here’s a teaser quote: 

If you like money, it's a great time to be a lawyer. In Citigroup's Law Watch survey of "153 US law firms broadly representative of the industry," law firm revenue has gone up 9.8% per year since 2001. But as Bill Gates put it: "Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose." We know lawyers are smart people. Do some think they can't lose?

Read why Jim argues that you ought to read:


First Law Firm Goes Public - shares up 40% on first day of trading


The Wall Street Journal posts: Slater & Gordon: The World’s First Publicly Traded Law Firm

Managing Partners and other members of law firm C suites had better look at Slater & Gordon’s prospectus – it’s a gold mine, (pun intended).

Have a look at how risks are described – the Wall Street Journal post quotes the passage balancing professional responsibility and shareholder profits.

"Lawyers have a primary duty to the courts and a secondary duty to their clients. These duties are paramount given the nature of the Company’s business as an Incorporated Legal Practice. There could be circumstances in which the lawyers of Slater & Gordon are required to act in accordance with these duties and contrary to other corporate responsibilities and against the interests of Shareholders or the short-term profitability of the Company."

I adored the "Key Risks" page (click on it to download pdf of this page):



PUNCHLINE:  If this does not fascinate you, you should resign from your leadership position.  I am not saying you should follow suit – I want you to know what your options are and what your competitors might be up to way sooner than you would like to think.

Science fiction movies adore time travel and ripples in the primordial fabric.  We are witnessing a collision - the future has just exploded into the present.  With Clemente in the UK just over the horizon, please fasten your seatbelts - this is a pivotal moment for the legal profession and for the Managing Partners within it.  Like Dennis Hopper's famous line in the movie Speed, "what are you going to do, Jack"

You may want to reference my earlier post:  The end of the legal profession as you knew it...